tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3427954556695420515.post6377960579439617102..comments2024-02-22T00:36:40.647+02:00Comments on Kalevan ja Untamon geenit: Going ahead with the new data, clusteringMaurihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03670078523265515878noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3427954556695420515.post-72735287005753320072017-02-03T17:15:06.807+02:002017-02-03T17:15:06.807+02:00Who was first depends on whether you're speaki...Who was first depends on whether you're speaking in linguistic or genetic sense. Busby et al. 2015 says the admixture in Mordvas is more recent and from a different source than in Finns (and my Saami-Bashkir/Altaian rare allele comparison proves it). <br /><br />Linguistically they are equivalent splits, see the final tree here:<br />http://www.elisanet.fi/alkupera/Sukupuu.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3427954556695420515.post-6158803686615128132017-02-03T16:55:46.346+02:002017-02-03T16:55:46.346+02:00We can safely say that Ingrians and Estonians have...We can safely say that Ingrians and Estonians have no Altaian or Bashkir ancestry. Also, we can question the Mordovian-Estonian connection. It is more likely that Estonians have got Baltic admixture, as well as Mordovians, Estonians now locating between Ingrians and Balts. But the Baltic - Volga-Finnic connection is an enigma. Who was first? Maurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03670078523265515878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3427954556695420515.post-70419385475823021792017-02-03T16:04:55.541+02:002017-02-03T16:04:55.541+02:00Here are some correlation graphics from rarecoal r...Here are some correlation graphics from rarecoal runs done on the Estonian Biocentre dataset from Pagani et al. 2016 and 1000genomes.<br /><br />https://ibb.co/cuuxrF<br /><br />Rare allele sharing shows that northern Baltic Finns (Ingrians, Finns, Karelians, Vepsians) mostly descend from a migration of proto-Finnic speakers from Estonia, with a Saami substrate. Exactly as the phylogeny and history of Uralic languages would suggest. Finnic speakers share no significant common ancestry with Mordovians beyond what is shared with other Eastern Europeans.<br /><br />Volga-Ural region also experienced recent Turkic-related gene-flow from the east that did not reach Finland or the Baltic (proxied here by both Bashkirs and Altaians). This has been implied by older studies but rare allele sharing makes it plain.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3427954556695420515.post-37522991054489109772017-01-27T21:28:50.506+02:002017-01-27T21:28:50.506+02:00At FtDa I have
8 full matches, all of Finnish anc...At FtDa I have<br /><br />8 full matches, all of Finnish ancestry<br />8 at gen. dist. 1, assumed location by surnames<br /> - 2 German<br /> - 1 Finnish<br /> - 5 English or American<br /><br />Looking at the map info for MRCA of those at genetic distance 2<br /><br />1 Hungary<br />1 France<br />1 Scotland<br />1 Southern Sweden<br /><br />Three step mutation on the map<br /><br />2 Southern Norway<br />1 Germany<br /><br />Unfortunately no one of those at one step have given MRCA.<br /><br />Maurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03670078523265515878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3427954556695420515.post-47728608600454912222017-01-27T20:05:27.663+02:002017-01-27T20:05:27.663+02:00On the larger two dimensional PCA Scandinavians ar...On the larger two dimensional PCA Scandinavians are drawn by Finns, not by Yamnaya or any other ancient ancestry from anywhere else. On another PCA Scandinavians move between West Europe and Finland. Maurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03670078523265515878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3427954556695420515.post-8529564536465332082017-01-27T20:01:00.304+02:002017-01-27T20:01:00.304+02:00Great story about our mtdna. I belong to H39, whi...Great story about our mtdna. I belong to H39, which seems to be around 500-700 years old in Finland and exists at 2 mutation level from me in Europe. Can we say that below 1000 years is Finnish specific. I would say, no.Maurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03670078523265515878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3427954556695420515.post-50887928805535978632017-01-27T18:35:53.478+02:002017-01-27T18:35:53.478+02:00To me it seems your PCAs of Europeans using millio...To me it seems your PCAs of Europeans using millions of SNPs East Europe+Scandinavia cluster the furthest east because they have the most Yamnaya ancestry? Would you agree? Other analyses using less SNPs though give some Western Europeans like Irish about as much Yamnaya. Are you able do analyses using ancient DNA samples to test if this is correct?<br /><br />NorthEast Europe+Scandinavia have the most U5a, U4 which suggests they have more Yamnaya than other Europeans. Samuel Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054267559597526866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3427954556695420515.post-49443887240922473922017-01-27T18:31:44.374+02:002017-01-27T18:31:44.374+02:00Btw, my blog is a good source for information of E...Btw, my blog is a good source for information of European mtDNA. This is a post I made this week. "Finland."<br /><br />http://mtdnaatlas.blogspot.com/2017/01/finland.htmlSamuel Andrewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054267559597526866noreply@blogger.com