sunnuntai 17. marraskuuta 2019

Mitochondrial lineages in Iron Age Fennoscandinavia, comments

The distribution between lines U and H in Finland has been a point of discussion now.  Many thinkers have underlined that in a big view H is connected to Neolithic farmers and U to Mesolithic hunter gatherers.  Although it is interesting to combine different point of views, sometimes people forget the context and tend to overreact, as in this case has happened too.   Overall the transition to farming happened in Southern Europe around 7000-5000 BCE and in Northern Europe 3000-2000 BCE.  In light of this history all settlements in Finland are extremely young and in Southern Finland differences between female and male haplogroups manifest more migration routes from different compass points and different farmer populations, rather than introduction of Finnish agriculture.  Although I don't believe that this fact is totally missed, wrong highlighting can't be any good. Populations and migrations varied depending on time, during the latest 2000 years especially in the East Europe.   In my opinion in this point researchers have lost the substance, which would hold a question "where did they come and why so much later than in most other places in Europe".  The answer is to be discovered by comparing female and male haplogroups and types in Finland and in possible contact areas.   

lauantai 16. marraskuuta 2019

Mitochondrial lineages in Iron Age Fennoscandinavia

A new study has been published, Human mitochondrial DNA lineages in Iron-Age Fennoscandia suggest incipient admixture and eastern introduction of farming-related maternal ancestry .  It includes several new samples from Iron Age Finland and also historical Finnish samples for a comparison purpose.   Some of these mitochondrial samples are far too rare to reveal statistically anything, some are too common.   Best we can do is to try to find results implying something regional and I try to find them and compare them to present-day samples gathered from FamilyTreeDna's projects.   Unfortunately those projects are biased to West Europe due to the testing activity, yet we can see distribution patterns inside Fennoscandinavia, because Finland is one of the best tested country.   I am not going to make conclusions, because I don't see any sense to try to connect only 1000 years old Finnish samples to any European wide prehistoric events, I just show results.  When I have more time I will gather more results, if it sounds reasonable in a Fennoscandinavian regional context. You can do your comparisons and send here as comments.   Image cropping follows the distribution, nothing exists outside images.



Levänluhta2 JK1963 U5b1b1a1



Levänluhta5 JK1966 U5b1b1a1a




Levänluhta8 JK1969 U5b1b1a1b




Levänluhta11 JK2066 U5b2a5(a)




Hollola8 TU662 U4b1b1




Luistari1 TU464 U4b1b1a



Hollola14 TU670 U4b1b1b




Hollola6 TU660 U4d1a1a





Hollola10 TU664 U4a2








Hollola15 TU672  V7a
Tuukkala7 TU643 V7a1





Tuukkala10 TU646 H1a7
Hiitola11 TU676 H1a7




Hiitola8 TU570 H1b2






Hiitola1 TU504 H1a8a
Tuukkala5 TU633 H1a8a 




Hiitola4 TU564 H2a2a1b





Tuukkala6 TU641 H11a1



keskiviikko 6. marraskuuta 2019

Challenge youself, things aren't always piece of cake

Behind most studies and also behind yDna haplotree nomenclatures is a lot of brain work.  Just reading and picking scientific vocabulary doesn't make you an expert, you have to experience things.  See differences and similarities, question your own thoughts more than thoughts of other people and question enough to reach consistent structures. These comments are not addressed to anyone particularly, but something I have seen has to be commented.

I promised to go on with my yDna tests and add also "negative calls", i.e. ancestral SNPs.  I have retested Stora Förvar 11, a sample from Gotland dated 7300-6800 BC and detected by me and another blogger as I1 . Before new results some background.  If we look at the ISOGG 2019 nomenclature we see a significant difference between branches I1 and I2.  There are 205 found positive calls under the classification I1, but only 22 under I2.  I counted now only calls under titles I1 and I2, not any downstream mutations.  This means that the time span in case of the title I1 is bigger and it also means that there is a lot of unknown history behind the I1 story.  So when we say "it is only a title I1" we actually should say "it is I1 and many still unknown downstream mutations", almost 10 times more time and unknown downstream mutations than in case of I2.  We don't know much about the prehistory of I1 until we have dated information of its "positive calls".

There were "positive calls" / derived values for Stora Forvar 11:

FGC2433 I1
CTS1748 I1
Z2749 I1
CTS6221^ I1
Z2802^ I1
CTS6629 I1
Z2805 I1
YSC0000301 I1
Z2882 I1
Z2726 I1
Z2731 I1

and there are "negative calls" / ancestral values:



CTS3268 I1
Z2762 I1
L121 I1
S62 I1
CTS9258 I1
Z2825 I1
L509 I1
Z2864 I1
FGC2425 I1
Z2714 I1

We can say that Stora Förvar 11 belongs to the I1 branch and if we could infer the age he could be located around to the middle of the time span of the title level of I1 (11 derived and  10 ancestral SNPs).  All ISOGG locations above I1 in I branch were derived and all below I1 were ancestral.

sunnuntai 3. marraskuuta 2019

Thoughts about the origin of Finnish and Estonian languages

This is probably not a popular writing, but I am not a politician and I don't need to please anyone.  Here is the issue:  why the yDna distribution among ancestors of the earliest Finnic people doesn't correspond to their imagined yDna?  Linguists are cosily unanimous that the home of Baltic Finnic languages was in Southern Estonia around 3000 years ago.  One but not the only reason for this has been the presence of Baltic loan words in Baltic Finnic languages, including Finnish.  Numerous studies endorse this idea.  Baltic loan words wouldn't have been possible without straight connection with Baltic speakers. But then, why this theory is not supported by genetics?  It is a common idea that the haplogroup N1c1 brought Finnic languages from the east to Estonia.  However, only a small minority of Late Bronze Age and Iron Age men in Estonia carried N1c1 and even less of them carried those clades nowadays especially connected to Baltic Finnic speakers.  Below statistics from Saag et al. 2019. 21 samples of all 28 ancient Estonians carried R1a and only 6 belonged to N1c1, one was J2b2.  Furthermore only one of those six belonged to a "Finnish haplotype" and other five most likely belonged to "Baltic haplotypes".





maanantai 28. lokakuuta 2019

Saag et al. 2019, yDna aspects

I ran all those samples through my yDna process to see possible additions revealed by annual upgrades of ISOGG.  I really expected to see something more, because Saag at al.  obviously didn't use ISOGG taxonomy.  It is good to emphadize that all my results follow statistical rules, which means that a multiple occurrence of same haplogroup level stands for better certainty of results and parallel mutations between haplogroups and branches exist in the real world.  You can simply generalize that, if same level exists two or more times in the tree, the result quality is a product of certainty of all result. Behind this we have the basic certainty of individual results, i.e. the result build up by count and quality of mapped reads.


OLS03:

CTS2680    R1
CTS8851    R1a~
M740    R1a~
CTS9596    R1a~
M745    R1a~
PF6205    R1a~
V3655    R1a~
M459    R1a1
PF6235    R1a1
F947    R1a1~
M617    R1a1~
PF6156    R1a1~
CTS1924    R1a1a~
M655    R1a1a~
PF6174    R1a1a~
CTS2891    R1a1a~
M664    R1a1a~
M779    R1a1a~
PF6216    R1a1a~
M417    R1a1a1
F3166    R1a1a1~
M763    R1a1a1~
S205    R1a1a1b1a2a
Z92    R1a1a1b1a2a
S344    R1a1a1b1a2a
Z660    R1a1a1b1a2a


V9:

CTS5273    R1a~
PF6190    R1a~
CTS8851    R1a~
M740    R1a~
FGC32014    R1a~
Y215    R1a~
FGC32438    R1a~
Y217    R1a~
F3650    R1a~
F928    R1a~
M616    R1a~
CTS3161    R1a1~
M671    R1a1~
PF6182    R1a1~
CTS5287    R1a1~
CTS11853    R1a1~
PF6227    R1a1~
F3564    R1a1~
M5824    R1a1~
CTS836    R1a1~
M609    R1a1~
M646    R1a1~
PF6167    R1a1~
CTS3551    R1a1a~
PF6183    R1a1a~
CTS570    R1a1a~
M417    R1a1a1
CTS5979    R1a1a1~
M700    R1a1a1~
PF6193    R1a1a1~
CTS7278    R1a1a1~
M721    R1a1a1~
PF7524    R1a1a1~
CTS10080    R1a1a1~
M755    R1a1a1~
PF6208    R1a1a1~
M759    R1a1a1~
PF7540    R1a1a1~
F3166    R1a1a1~
M763    R1a1a1~
F3398    R1a1a1~
PF7532    R1a1a1~
CTS6596    R1a1a1b~
M713    R1a1a1b~
S346    R1a1a1b~
Z646    R1a1a1b~
PF6217    R1a1a1b1
S339    R1a1a1b1
Z283    R1a1a1b1
S198    R1a1a1b1a
V3055    R1a1a1b1a
Z282    R1a1a1b1a


X04:

CTS3622    R
PF6037    R
CTS3877    R1a~
PF6184    R1a~
CTS9596    R1a~
M745    R1a~
PF6205    R1a~
V3655    R1a~
M775    R1a~
PF6215    R1a~
FGC32438    R1a~
Y217    R1a~
L122    R1a1
M448    R1a1
PF6237    R1a1
CTS2132    R1a1~
M658    R1a1~
PF6176    R1a1~
CTS8825    R1a1~
M739    R1a1~
CTS836    R1a1~
M609    R1a1~
F947    R1a1~
M617    R1a1~
PF6156    R1a1~
F1224    R1a1~
V2035    R1a1~
M646    R1a1~
PF6167    R1a1~
M198    R1a1a
PF6238    R1a1a
F1808    R1a1a~
M668    R1a1a~
PF6181    R1a1a~
CTS3534    R1a1a~
M677    R1a1a~
PF7518    R1a1a~
CTS5069    R1a1a~
F3185    R1a1a~
M771    R1a1a~
CTS11720    R1a1a~
CTS5648    R1a1a1~
M695    R1a1a1~
F3159    R1a1a1~
M761    R1a1a1~
PF7530    R1a1a1~
CTS11913    R1a1a1~
M801    R1a1a1~
PF6228    R1a1a1~
PF6158    R1a1a1b
S441    R1a1a1b
Z647    R1a1a1b
CTS9754    R1a1a1b~
M750    R1a1a1b~
PF6206    R1a1a1b~
V3726    R1a1a1b~
Z650    R1a1a1b~



VII15:

M173    R1
P241    R1
Page29    R1
PF6189    R1a~
CTS5936    R1a~
M698    R1a~
PF6192    R1a~
CTS9596    R1a~
M745    R1a~
PF6205    R1a~
V3655    R1a~
F3364    R1a~
M794    R1a~
PF6222    R1a~
CTS3161    R1a1~
M671    R1a1~
PF6182    R1a1~
CTS8073    R1a1~
M728    R1a1~
CTS8710    R1a1~
M737    R1a1~
CTS9496    R1a1~
M743    R1a1~
PF7526    R1a1~
F3197    R1a1~
M774    R1a1~
F3564    R1a1~
M5824    R1a1~
CTS836    R1a1~
M609    R1a1~
F947    R1a1~
M617    R1a1~
PF6156    R1a1~
M198    R1a1a
PF6238    R1a1a
M514    R1a1a
PF6240    R1a1a
CTS5069    R1a1a~
CTS7690    R1a1a~
M724    R1a1a~
M779    R1a1a~
PF6216    R1a1a~
F3337    R1a1a~
M417    R1a1a1
F2234    R1a1a1~
M704    R1a1a1~
PF6195    R1a1a1~
CTS11913    R1a1a1~
M801    R1a1a1~
PF6228    R1a1a1~
S198    R1a1a1b1a
V3055    R1a1a1b1a
Z282    R1a1a1b1a
S3358    R1a1a1b1a2b3a~
Y32    R1a1a1b1a2b3a~


OLS10:

F1815    N
M2177    N
V2528    N
CTS6605    N
M2214    N
F2571    N
M2230    N
S20099    N
F2636    N
L734    N
M2237    N
F2783    N
M2245    N
F3299    N
M2275    N
F3308    N
M2277    N
S24122    N
M2281    N
Z5026    N
M2151    N
S11174    N
V1731    N
Z4852    N
F1359    N
M2158    N
S11735    N
V2374    N
F3693    N
M2160    N
V2508    N
CTS2424    N~
M2031    N~
CTS3184    N~
M9108    N~
Z1955    N~
CTS7343    N~
M2223    N~
CTS10117    N~
M2254    N~
CTS10263    N~
M2256    N~
M2265    N~
Z4941    N~
CTS833    N~
M2139    N~
F1257    N~
M2156    N~
S11566    N~
V2137    N~
CTS10907    N1
M2282    N1
F3485^    N1
M2298^    N1
F1941    N1~
M2186    N1~
S17097    N1~
V2928    N1~
CTS5221    N1~
L549    N1a1
M2033    N1a1
Z1953    N1a1
L395    N1a1
M2080    N1a1
L549    N1a1a~
Z1953    N1a1a~
CTS8315    N1a1a1~
M2070    N1a1a1~
F1419    N1a1a1~
M2017    N1a1a1~
P298    N1a1a1a1
CTS7519    N1a1a1a1a
CTS10064    N1a1a1a1a
M2082    N1a1a1a1a
Z1968    N1a1a1a1a
M2090    N1a1a1a1a
Z4932    N1a1a1a1a
CTS12907    N1a1a1a1a
M2129    N1a1a1a1a
Z1980    N1a1a1a1a
Z1926    N1a1a1a1a2a1a1~



X08:

CTS2680    R1
CTS3321    R1
M673    R1
PF6189    R1a~
FGC32014    R1a~
Y215    R1a~
FGC32438    R1a~
Y217    R1a~
F928    R1a~
M616    R1a~
M459    R1a1
PF6235    R1a1
L120    R1a1~
M516    R1a1~
PF6236    R1a1~
CTS8710    R1a1~
M737    R1a1~
CTS9496    R1a1~
M743    R1a1~
PF7526    R1a1~
M602    R1a1~
CTS1924    R1a1a~
M655    R1a1a~
PF6174    R1a1a~
F1808    R1a1a~
M668    R1a1a~
PF6181    R1a1a~
CTS5069    R1a1a~
F3337    R1a1a~
M757    R1a1a1~
PF6210    R1a1a1~
M630    R1a1a1~
V1720    R1a1a1~
M649    R1a1a1~
PF6169    R1a1a1~
CTS5508    R1a1a1b~
Z649    R1a1a1b~
CTS3607    R1a1a1b1a2b~
M558    R1a1a1b1a2b~
S3363    R1a1a1b1a2b~
V2803    R1a1a1b1a2b~
FGC15005    R1a1a1b1a2b3a4a2d~
YP614    R1a1a1b1a2b3a4a2d~


IIa:

F1715    N
M2168    N
S15571    N
CTS2652    N
M2173    N
CTS3982    N
M2184    N
CTS4082    N
M2185    N
CTS5912    N
M2204    N
F2344^    N
M2211^    N
CTS6605    N
M2214    N
CTS7433    N
M2224    N
F2509    N
M2225    N
S19819    N
F2596^    N
M2233^    N
S20231^    N
F2783    N
M2245    N
CTS9197    N
F3714    N
M2246    N
F2968    N
F3108    N
M2260    N
M2263    N
Z4931    N
F3227    N
M2100    N
S23418    N
F3299    N
M2275    N
M2279    N
S24429    N
Z5023    N
M2281    N
Z5026    N
F3426    N
M2296    N
S25467    N
CTS92    N
M2131    N
CTS265    N
M2134    N
V1139    N
F1052    N
M2144    N
M2151    N
S11174    N
V1731    N
Z4852    N
M2159    N
S11864    N
V2504    N
Z4861    N
F3694    N
M2161    N
CTS3184    N~
M9108    N~
Z1955    N~
CTS5613    N~
M2201    N~
CTS7343    N~
M2223    N~
CTS7622    N~
M2227    N~
CTS7967    N~
M2066    N~
CTS8155    N~
M2235    N~
CTS8158    N~
M2236    N~
CTS8373    N~
M2238    N~
Z4914    N~
CTS8743    N~
M2243    N~
CTS10263    N~
M2256    N~
M2263    N~
Z4931    N~
M2266    N~
Z4946    N~
M2272    N~
Z4954    N~
M2300    N~
M2301    N~
S26149    N~
Z5047    N~
M2135    N~
Z4834    N~
CTS833    N~
M2139    N~
M2149    N~
Z4850    N~
F1257    N~
M2156    N~
S11566    N~
V2137    N~
F1840    N1
M2179    N1
S16415    N1
V2603    N1
CTS3750    N1
M2183    N1
V2831    N1
F2231^    N1
M2208^    N1
S19598^    N1
CTS8624    N1
M2240    N1
F3002    N1
M2255    N1
V3963    N1
F1427    N1
M2162    N1
M2107    N1a
Z5024    N1a
M46    N1a1
Page70    N1a1
Tat    N1a1
M2098    N1a1a1~
Z1972    N1a1a1~
CTS10761    N1a1a1a1
M2110    N1a1a1a1
M2005    N1a1a1a1
CTS5679    N1a1a1a1a
M2044    N1a1a1a1a
Z1960    N1a1a1a1a
M2208^    N1a1a1a1a
CTS6336    N1a1a1a1a
M2049    N1a1a1a1a
CTS6967    N1a1a1a1a
CTS7299    N1a1a1a1a
M1986    N1a1a1a1a
Z1963    N1a1a1a1a
CTS7519    N1a1a1a1a
CTS7772    N1a1a1a1a
M2064    N1a1a1a1a
F2584    N1a1a1a1a
M2065    N1a1a1a1a
S20163    N1a1a1a1a
CTS8751    N1a1a1a1a
M2072    N1a1a1a1a
CTS10336    N1a1a1a1a
CTS10570    N1a1a1a1a
F3080    N1a1a1a1a
M2089    N1a1a1a1a
Z1969    N1a1a1a1a
Z4950    N1a1a1a1a
Z4959    N1a1a1a1a
F3331    N1a1a1a1a
CTS10761    N1a1a1a1a
M2110    N1a1a1a1a
CTS11941    N1a1a1a1a
M2121    N1a1a1a1a
Z1979    N1a1a1a1a
M2128    N1a1a1a1a
Z5051    N1a1a1a1a
F3823^    N1a1a1a1a
M1978^    N1a1a1a1a
S9317^    N1a1a1a1a
CTS622    N1a1a1a1a
M1999    N1a1a1a1a
CTS1064^    N1a1a1a1a
M2005    N1a1a1a1a
M2014    N1a1a1a1a
M2021    N1a1a1a1a
Z4873    N1a1a1a1a
CTS2929    N1a1a1a1a1a
VL29    N1a1a1a1a1a
FGC13366    N1a1a1a1a1a
Z5027    N1a1a1a1a1a
Z4908    N1a1a1a1a1a1~
Z4917    N1a1a1a1a1a1a


X09:

PF7542    R1a1~
F989    R1a1a~
M619    R1a1a~
V1190    R1a1a~


IIf:

CTS4082    N
M2185    N
M231    N
CTS6605    N
M2214    N
F2509    N
M2225    N
S19819    N
F3299    N
M2275    N
M2151    N
S11174    N
V1731    N
Z4852    N
M2159    N
S11864    N
V2504    N
Z4861    N
CTS7343    N~
M2223    N~
CTS11220    N~
M2285    N~
F3641    N~
M2302    N~
M2149    N~
Z4850    N~
M2152    N~
Z4854    N~
F2130    N1a
M2042    N1a
CTS759    N1a1a~
M1981    N1a1a~
CTS5679    N1a1a1a1a
M2044    N1a1a1a1a
Z1960    N1a1a1a1a
F2584    N1a1a1a1a
M2065    N1a1a1a1a
S20163    N1a1a1a1a
CTS8310    N1a1a1a1a
M2069    N1a1a1a1a
Z1965    N1a1a1a1a
F2996    N1a1a1a1a
M2083    N1a1a1a1a
M2101    N1a1a1a1a
S23604    N1a1a1a1a
Z4956    N1a1a1a1a
F3331    N1a1a1a1a
F4115^    N1a1a1a1a
M2015^    N1a1a1a1a
S11709^    N1a1a1a1a
CTS2929    N1a1a1a1a1a
VL29    N1a1a1a1a1a
L550    N1a1a1a1a1a1a
S431    N1a1a1a1a1a1a


VII4:

CTS3449    N
F3701    N
M2181    N
V2700    N
CTS5970    N
M2206    N
CTS7551    N
F3708    N
L667    N
M2226    N
F2783    N
M2245    N
CTS9197    N
F3714    N
M2246    N
F2999    N
M2253    N
S22032    N
V3957    N
F3123    N
M2262    N
S22586    N
F3227    N
M2100    N
S23418    N
F3308    N
M2277    N
S24122    N
M2279    N
S24429    N
Z5023    N
M2151    N
S11174    N
V1731    N
Z4852    N
CTS2424    N~
M2031    N~
CTS4463    N~
M2193    N~
V3083    N~
CTS7622    N~
M2227    N~
CTS8773    N~
M2244    N~
M2274    N~
Z4967    N~
M2276    N~
Z4968    N~
F3641    N~
M2302    N~
M2303    N~
Z5049    N~
CTS237    N~
M2133    N~
F1061    N~
M2349    N~
V1420    N~
M2152    N~
Z4854    N~
F1257    N~
M2156    N~
S11566    N~
V2137    N~
F2156    N1
M2202    N1
F2420    N1
M2218    N1
S19333    N1
F3117    N1
M2261    N1
S22547    N1
M2267    N1
Z4947    N1
CTS11448    N1
M2289    N1
F3485^    N1
M2298^    N1
F1427    N1
M2162    N1
F1941    N1~
M2186    N1~
S17097    N1~
V2928    N1~
CTS5221    N1~
M2006    N1a
Z4845    N1a
F1206    N1a
M2013    N1a
S11466    N1a
CTS7728    N1a1a1~
M2063    N1a1a1~
Z1964    N1a1a1~
M2007    N1a1a1a1
Z1952    N1a1a1a1
CTS3103    N1a1a1a1a
CTS5290^    N1a1a1a1a
Z4950    N1a1a1a1a
Z4959    N1a1a1a1a
M2106    N1a1a1a1a
Z1975    N1a1a1a1a
F3354    N1a1a1a1a
M2109    N1a1a1a1a
S24635    N1a1a1a1a
CTS11808    N1a1a1a1a
CTS439    N1a1a1a1a
M1998    N1a1a1a1a
CTS6904    N1a1a1a1a1a



X10:

L145    R1a
M449    R1a
PF6175    R1a
L62    R1a
M513    R1a
PF6200    R1a
CTS5936    R1a~
M698    R1a~
PF6192    R1a~
FGC32014    R1a~
Y215    R1a~
FGC32438    R1a~
Y217    R1a~
F1088    R1a~
M629    R1a~
PF6160    R1a~
CTS2132    R1a1~
M658    R1a1~
PF6176    R1a1~
CTS3943    R1a1~
M680    R1a1~
F2328    R1a1~
M709    R1a1~
PF7522    R1a1~
CTS9739    R1a1~
M749    R1a1~
F3197    R1a1~
M774    R1a1~
CTS11853    R1a1~
PF6227    R1a1~
CTS2891    R1a1a~
M664    R1a1a~
F3337    R1a1a~
CTS570    R1a1a~
CTS5979    R1a1a1~
M700    R1a1a1~
PF6193    R1a1a1~
CTS7278    R1a1a1~
M721    R1a1a1~
PF7524    R1a1a1~
M757    R1a1a1~
PF6210    R1a1a1~
M782    R1a1a1~
PF6218    R1a1a1~
M630    R1a1a1~
V1720    R1a1a1~
M637    R1a1a1~
PF6165    R1a1a1~
CTS5508    R1a1a1b~
Z649    R1a1a1b~
A428.2    R1a1a1b2a2a3c2~



X12:

CTS11530    R1a~
F1545    R1a1~
PF6168    R1a1~
S2880    R1a1a1a1d1~



X14:

CTS5273    R1a~
PF6190    R1a~
F2948    R1a~
M752    R1a~
PF7527    R1a~
V3820    R1a~
FGC32014    R1a~
Y215    R1a~
M784    R1a~
Y216    R1a~
F3650    R1a~
CTS12639    R1a~
M814    R1a~
PF7535    R1a~
CTS3161    R1a1~
M671    R1a1~
PF6182    R1a1~
CTS8825    R1a1~
M739    R1a1~
CTS10042    R1a1~
M754    R1a1~
PF6207    R1a1~
F3494    R1a1~
M804    R1a1~
PF6230    R1a1~
CTS501    R1a1~
M604    R1a1~
PF6152    R1a1~
F1157    R1a1~
M631    R1a1~
PF6164    R1a1~
V1855    R1a1~
L168    R1a1a
F1808    R1a1a~
M668    R1a1a~
PF6181    R1a1a~
F3194    R1a1a~
M773    R1a1a~
CTS5979    R1a1a1~
M700    R1a1a1~
PF6193    R1a1a1~
CTS7191    R1a1a1~
M719    R1a1a1~
PF6198    R1a1a1~
F2957    R1a1a1~
M753    R1a1a1~
V3842    R1a1a1~
CTS10080    R1a1a1~
M755    R1a1a1~
PF6208    R1a1a1~
M782    R1a1a1~
PF6218    R1a1a1~
CTS6596    R1a1a1b~
M713    R1a1a1b~
S346    R1a1a1b~
Z646    R1a1a1b~
CTS1211    R1a1a1b1a2b
S3357    R1a1a1b1a2b
M12335    R1a1a1b1a2b3a4a2b~



IVLS09:

F1744    J
S4968    J
YSC0001303    J
CTS3936    J
PF4543    J
YSC0001275    J
CTS8974    J
PF4578    J
F2817    J
PF4579    J
F2839    J
PF4580    J
CTS9533    J
PF4582    J
F3119    J
PF4588    J
PF4595    J
FGC1599    J
S23720    J
Z7822    J
F3347    J
PF4608    J
YSC0001315    J
M304    J
PF4609    J
CTS11571    J
PF4617    J
CTS852    J
PF4504    J
PF4505    J
YSC0000064    J
F1181    J
PF4518    J
S35    J
FGC2790    J2
Y29592    J2
Z8221    J2b
Z543    J2b
S20479    J2b
Z2492    J2b
PF7290    J2b
Z546    J2b
Z2430    J2b
Z555    J2b
Z560    J2b
PF7358    J2b
Z564    J2b
Z2422    J2b
Z28130    J2b
Z524    J2b
CTS801    J2b
Z2481    J2b
Z8212    J2b
S11560    J2b
Z2412    J2b
CTS7856    J2b~
Z2490    J2b~
CTS1353    J2b~
PF7333    J2b~
Z2406    J2b~
Z575    J2b2~
AM01362    J2b2a~
CTS4412    J2b2a~
Z2390    J2b2a~
AM01366    J2b2a~
Z604    J2b2a~
AM01370    J2b2a~
Z611    J2b2a~
Z614    J2b2a~
AM01375    J2b2a~
Z619    J2b2a~
AM01376    J2b2a~
Z620    J2b2a~
Z8263    J2b2a~
AM01380    J2b2a~
Z583    J2b2a~
SK1406    J2b2a~
Z591    J2b2a~
AM00202    J2b2a1
AMM111    J2b2a1
CTS5382    J2b2a1
Z2512    J2b2a1
AM00211    J2b2a1
AMM120    J2b2a1
CTS7378    J2b2a1
Z2398    J2b2a1
AM00214    J2b2a1
AMM123    J2b2a1
S21185    J2b2a1
Z2517    J2b2a1
AM00222    J2b2a1
AMM131    J2b2a1
Z8409    J2b2a1
AM00224    J2b2a1
AMM133    J2b2a1
S23613    J2b2a1
Z2521    J2b2a1
AM00226    J2b2a1
AMM135    J2b2a1
Z622    J2b2a1


X15:

CTS2680    R1
CTS3123    R1
M670    R1
L457    R1a~
PF6191    R1a~
CTS8851    R1a~
M740    R1a~
FGC32014    R1a~
Y215    R1a~
M784    R1a~
Y216    R1a~
M641    R1a~
PF7516    R1a~
Page65.2    R1a1
PF6234.2    R1a1
SRY1532.2    R1a1
CTS9496    R1a1~
M743    R1a1~
PF7526    R1a1~
CTS9739    R1a1~
M749    R1a1~
M769    R1a1~
PF6214    R1a1~
F3564    R1a1~
M5824    R1a1~
F947    R1a1~
M617    R1a1~
PF6156    R1a1~
F1157    R1a1~
M631    R1a1~
PF6164    R1a1~
V1855    R1a1~
M650    R1a1~
PF6170    R1a1~
F1808    R1a1a~
M668    R1a1a~
PF6181    R1a1a~
CTS3230    R1a1a~
CTS9779    R1a1a~
M779    R1a1a~
PF6216    R1a1a~
M417    R1a1a1
CTS4259    R1a1a1~
M683    R1a1a1~
PF6186    R1a1a1~
F3166    R1a1a1~
M763    R1a1a1~
CTS12010    R1a1a1b~
M802    R1a1a1b~
PF7533    R1a1a1b~
Z648    R1a1a1b~
CTS1211    R1a1a1b1a2b
S3357    R1a1a1b1a2b
V3092    R1a1a1b1a2b3~
Y35    R1a1a1b1a2b3~



V10:

CTS3622    R
PF6037    R
CTS3123    R1
M670    R1
CTS5273    R1a~
PF6190    R1a~
CTS8851    R1a~
M740    R1a~
F3570    R1a~
PF6233    R1a~
M641    R1a~
PF7516    R1a~
CTS5437    R1a1~
M693    R1a1~
CTS8710    R1a1~
M737    R1a1~
CTS9739    R1a1~
M749    R1a1~
CTS11633    R1a1~
M623    R1a1~
PF7514    R1a1~
V1412    R1a1~
M514    R1a1a
PF6240    R1a1a
CTS1619    R1a1a~
M653    R1a1a~
PF6173    R1a1a~
CTS5069    R1a1a~
FGC32012    R1a1a~
Y205    R1a1a~
M779    R1a1a~
PF6216    R1a1a~
M807    R1a1a~
Y220    R1a1a~
CTS262    R1a1a~
M601    R1a1a~
CTS570    R1a1a~
M417    R1a1a1
CTS4259    R1a1a1~
M683    R1a1a1~
PF6186    R1a1a1~
F2234    R1a1a1~
M704    R1a1a1~
PF6195    R1a1a1~
F3159    R1a1a1~
M761    R1a1a1~
M782    R1a1a1~
PF6218    R1a1a1~
CTS10993    R1a1a1~
M793    R1a1a1~
M630    R1a1a1~
V1720    R1a1a1~
PF6217    R1a1a1b1
S339    R1a1a1b1
Z283    R1a1a1b1
CTS2489    R1a1a1b1a2a3a1a~
S3348    R1a1a1b1a2a3a1a~


X16:

CTS3622    R
PF6037    R
L457    R1a~
PF6191    R1a~
CTS5936    R1a~
M698    R1a~
PF6192    R1a~



X17:

CTS2913    R
M667    R
CTS3622    R
PF6037    R
CTS3123    R1
M670    R1
L63    R1a
M511    R1a
PF6203    R1a
CTS6918    R1a~
PF6196    R1a~
CTS8851    R1a~
M740    R1a~
CTS11148    R1a~
M796    R1a~
CTS11530    R1a~
M459    R1a1
PF6235    R1a1
CTS3943    R1a1~
M680    R1a1~
F2328    R1a1~
M709    R1a1~
PF7522    R1a1~
CTS11411    R1a1~
M798    R1a1~
CTS501    R1a1~
M604    R1a1~
PF6152    R1a1~
CTS836    R1a1~
M609    R1a1~
M198    R1a1a
PF6238    R1a1a
M512    R1a1a
PF6239    R1a1a
M514    R1a1a
PF6240    R1a1a
CTS3534    R1a1a~
M677    R1a1a~
PF7518    R1a1a~
CTS262    R1a1a~
M601    R1a1a~
F1050    R1a1a~
M622    R1a1a~
V1380    R1a1a~
M417    R1a1a1
F2234    R1a1a1~
M704    R1a1a1~
PF6195    R1a1a1~
CTS9510    R1a1a1~
V3625    R1a1a1~
F3159    R1a1a1~
M761    R1a1a1~
CTS10993    R1a1a1~
M793    R1a1a1~
CTS12941    R1a1a1~
M817    R1a1a1~
M630    R1a1a1~
V1720    R1a1a1~
M637    R1a1a1~
PF6165    R1a1a1~
PF6162    R1a1a1b
S224    R1a1a1b
V1754    R1a1a1b
Z645    R1a1a1b
CTS6596    R1a1a1b~
M713    R1a1a1b~
S346    R1a1a1b~
Z646    R1a1a1b~
CTS3607    R1a1a1b1a2b~
M558    R1a1a1b1a2b~
S3363    R1a1a1b1a2b~
V2803    R1a1a1b1a2b~


V12:

CTS2652    N
M2173    N
M231    N
CTS5970    N
M2206    N
CTS6183    N
M2210    N
CTS7433    N
M2224    N
F2919    N
M2250    N
V3683    N
M2280    N
Z5025    N
CTS1200    N
M2141    N
Z4838    N
F3691    N
M2148    N
V1495    N
CTS8773    N~
M2244    N~
CTS10263    N~
M2256    N~
M2276    N~
Z4968    N~
F1061    N~
M2349    N~
V1420    N~
F2552    N1
M2228    N1
CTS10907    N1
M2282    N1
F3361    N1a
M2113    N1a
S24798    N1a
CTS3103    N1a1a1a1a
CTS4260    N1a1a1a1a
CTS5631    N1a1a1a1a
M2043    N1a1a1a1a
Z1959    N1a1a1a1a
CTS8983    N1a1a1a1a
M2076    N1a1a1a1a
Z1967    N1a1a1a1a
M2106    N1a1a1a1a
Z1975    N1a1a1a1a
F4115^    N1a1a1a1a
M2015^    N1a1a1a1a
S11709^    N1a1a1a1a
CTS6904    N1a1a1a1a1a
Z4908    N1a1a1a1a1a1~
L550    N1a1a1a1a1a1a
S431    N1a1a1a1a1a1a



V14:

CTS2908    R1
M666    R1
PF6123    R1
M173    R1
P241    R1
Page29    R1
L146    R1a
M420    R1a
PF6229    R1a
CTS2443    R1a~
PF6178    R1a~
L457    R1a~
PF6191    R1a~
CTS8851    R1a~
M740    R1a~
CTS9515    R1a~
M744    R1a~
F2948    R1a~
M752    R1a~
PF7527    R1a~
V3820    R1a~
CTS10627    R1a~
M786    R1a~
CTS11148    R1a~
M796    R1a~
F1545    R1a1~
PF6168    R1a1~
M514    R1a1a
PF6240    R1a1a
F3185    R1a1a~
M771    R1a1a~
F989    R1a1a~
M619    R1a1a~
V1190    R1a1a~
Page7    R1a1a1
CTS5423    R1a1a1~
M692    R1a1a1~
F2234    R1a1a1~
M704    R1a1a1~
PF6195    R1a1a1~
CTS7191    R1a1a1~
M719    R1a1a1~
PF6198    R1a1a1~
F2957    R1a1a1~
M753    R1a1a1~
V3842    R1a1a1~
CTS10080    R1a1a1~
M755    R1a1a1~
PF6208    R1a1a1~
F3159    R1a1a1~
M761    R1a1a1~
PF7530    R1a1a1~
CTS5508    R1a1a1b~
Z649    R1a1a1b~
CTS9754    R1a1a1b~
M750    R1a1a1b~
PF6206    R1a1a1b~
V3726    R1a1a1b~
Z650    R1a1a1b~
CTS2243    R1a1a1b1a3a2a1



VIII8:

CTS5936    R1a~
M698    R1a~
PF6192    R1a~
CTS5287    R1a1~
CTS10847    R1a1~
M791    R1a1~
PF6221    R1a1~
F1545    R1a1~
PF6168    R1a1~
CTS11913    R1a1a1~
M801    R1a1a1~
PF6228    R1a1a1~
V3092    R1a1a1b1a2b3~
Y35    R1a1a1b1a2b3~


X20:

CTS3622    R
PF6037    R
L120    R1a1~
M516    R1a1~
PF6236    R1a1~
CTS8710    R1a1~
M737    R1a1~
CTS11720    R1a1a~


ILS01:

CTS2680    R1
CTS2908    R1
M666    R1
PF6123    R1
CTS8008    R1a~
M726    R1a~
F2948    R1a~
M752    R1a~
PF7527    R1a~
V3820    R1a~
CTS501    R1a1~
M604    R1a1~
PF6152    R1a1~
M649    R1a1a1~
PF6169    R1a1a1~


V16:

CTS9596    R1a~
M745    R1a~
PF6205    R1a~
V3655    R1a~
CTS11148    R1a~
M796    R1a~
M641    R1a~
PF7516    R1a~
CTS3548    R1a1~
M678    R1a1~
V2747    R1a1~
F947    R1a1~
M617    R1a1~
PF6156    R1a1~
M198    R1a1a
PF6238    R1a1a
L168    R1a1a
CTS1924    R1a1a~
M655    R1a1a~
PF6174    R1a1a~
F1808    R1a1a~
M668    R1a1a~
PF6181    R1a1a~
CTS5069    R1a1a~
F2684    R1a1a~
M733    R1a1a~
PF6201    R1a1a~
F3337    R1a1a~
F2957    R1a1a1~
M753    R1a1a1~
V3842    R1a1a1~
M630    R1a1a1~
V1720    R1a1a1~
PF6162    R1a1a1b
S224    R1a1a1b
V1754    R1a1a1b
Z645    R1a1a1b
PF6217    R1a1a1b1
S339    R1a1a1b1
Z283    R1a1a1b1

sunnuntai 27. lokakuuta 2019

More ancient I1 results

There are two ancient I1 results more, one from ancient Gotland, being over 7000 years old and labeled as Stora Förvar 11.  Another one represents Iron Age Lombards.  Lombards were an ancient Germanic tribe that moved to Northern Italy.  It discussed about their origin and one suggestion is that those wandering Germanic tribes came from Southern Germany.  This point of view is based on the reckoning that they, being powerful people, more probably came from densely inhabited Europe, more likely than from the barbaric north.  Old texts written by Roman historians speak about Scandinavians.  Maybe this becomes proven by new evidences in future.  Now we can only say that at least one of them came from the northern Europe.

Stora Forvar 11 is an exception among Mesolithic Scandinavians, all other samples belong to I2 so far.  Does this prove the origin of I1 in general?  I can't answer to this question, because another ancient I1 is detected from the Central European Linear Bottery culture, being from the same time range as Stora Förvar 11.  Unfortunately I didn't find corresponding data for this sample.

Stora Förvar 11:


CTS4077 I
PF3725 I
CTS5150 I
PF3739 I
CTS5764 I
PF3746 I
PF3759 I
YSC0000267 I
FI3 I
L756 I
PF3662 I
YSC0000284 I
FGC2433 I1
CTS1748 I1
Z2749 I1
CTS6221^ I1
Z2802^ I1
CTS6629 I1
Z2805 I1
YSC0000301 I1
Z2882 I1
Z2726 I1
Z2731 I1
FGC7747 I1~
CTS5887 I1~
Z2792 I1~


SZ45, Langobard:

 
FGC2417 I
Z16985 I
FGC2415 I
Y1880 I
CTS1800 I
PF3699 I
CTS2193 I
PF3703 I
CTS2387 I
PF3705 I
CTS2514 I
PF3706 I
CTS2536 I
PF3707 I
P38 I
PF3708 I
CTS3076 I
PF3712 I
M170 I
PF3715 I
CTS3383 I
PF3716 I
CTS3384 I
PF3717 I
L1197 I
PF3718 I
V2731 I
YSC0000260 I
CTS3517 I
PF3719 I
V2740 I
M258 I
PF3721 I
CTS3641 I
PF3722 I
CTS4077 I
PF3725 I
CTS4088 I
PF3868 I
CTS4209 I
PF3726 I
V2971 I
CTS4239 I
PF3727 I
V2992 I
CTS4272 I
PF3728 I
V3027 I
CTS4273 I
PF3729 I
CTS4340 I
PF3730 I
L772 I
PF3731 I
YSC0000263 I
CTS4637 I
CTS4664 I
CTS4745 I
PF3734 I
CTS4752 I
PF3735 I
ZS2268 I
CTS4848 I
FI7 I
PF3736 I
V3186 I
CTS4982 I
PF3737 I
V3251 I
CTS5150 I
PF3739 I
CTS5263 I
PF3742 I
U179 I
CTS5622 I
PF3743 I
CTS5650 I
PF3744 I
CTS5764 I
PF3746 I
CTS5908 I
PF3747 I
CTS5946 I
PF3748 I
CTS6231 I
PF3750 I
CTS6265 I
PF3871 I
CTS6334 I
PF3752 I
CTS6343 I
PF3753 I
CTS6344 I
PF3754 I
CTS6497 I
PF3756 I
CTS6751 I
PF3757 I
CTS7329 I
PF3759 I
YSC0000267 I
CTS7469 I
CTS7502 I
PF3760 I
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