Sunday, October 27, 2019

More ancient I1 results

There are two ancient I1 results more, one from ancient Gotland, being over 7000 years old and labeled as Stora Förvar 11.  Another one represents Iron Age Lombards.  Lombards were an ancient Germanic tribe that moved to Northern Italy.  It discussed about their origin and one suggestion is that those wandering Germanic tribes came from Southern Germany.  This point of view is based on the reckoning that they, being powerful people, more probably came from densely inhabited Europe, more likely than from the barbaric north.  Old texts written by Roman historians speak about Scandinavians.  Maybe this becomes proven by new evidences in future.  Now we can only say that at least one of them came from the northern Europe.

Stora Forvar 11 is an exception among Mesolithic Scandinavians, all other samples belong to I2 so far.  Does this prove the origin of I1 in general?  I can't answer to this question, because another ancient I1 is detected from the Central European Linear Bottery culture, being from the same time range as Stora Förvar 11.  Unfortunately I didn't find corresponding data for this sample.

Stora Förvar 11:


CTS4077 I
PF3725 I
CTS5150 I
PF3739 I
CTS5764 I
PF3746 I
PF3759 I
YSC0000267 I
FI3 I
L756 I
PF3662 I
YSC0000284 I
FGC2433 I1
CTS1748 I1
Z2749 I1
CTS6221^ I1
Z2802^ I1
CTS6629 I1
Z2805 I1
YSC0000301 I1
Z2882 I1
Z2726 I1
Z2731 I1
FGC7747 I1~
CTS5887 I1~
Z2792 I1~


SZ45, Langobard:

 
FGC2417 I
Z16985 I
FGC2415 I
Y1880 I
CTS1800 I
PF3699 I
CTS2193 I
PF3703 I
CTS2387 I
PF3705 I
CTS2514 I
PF3706 I
CTS2536 I
PF3707 I
P38 I
PF3708 I
CTS3076 I
PF3712 I
M170 I
PF3715 I
CTS3383 I
PF3716 I
CTS3384 I
PF3717 I
L1197 I
PF3718 I
V2731 I
YSC0000260 I
CTS3517 I
PF3719 I
V2740 I
M258 I
PF3721 I
CTS3641 I
PF3722 I
CTS4077 I
PF3725 I
CTS4088 I
PF3868 I
CTS4209 I
PF3726 I
V2971 I
CTS4239 I
PF3727 I
V2992 I
CTS4272 I
PF3728 I
V3027 I
CTS4273 I
PF3729 I
CTS4340 I
PF3730 I
L772 I
PF3731 I
YSC0000263 I
CTS4637 I
CTS4664 I
CTS4745 I
PF3734 I
CTS4752 I
PF3735 I
ZS2268 I
CTS4848 I
FI7 I
PF3736 I
V3186 I
CTS4982 I
PF3737 I
V3251 I
CTS5150 I
PF3739 I
CTS5263 I
PF3742 I
U179 I
CTS5622 I
PF3743 I
CTS5650 I
PF3744 I
CTS5764 I
PF3746 I
CTS5908 I
PF3747 I
CTS5946 I
PF3748 I
CTS6231 I
PF3750 I
CTS6265 I
PF3871 I
CTS6334 I
PF3752 I
CTS6343 I
PF3753 I
CTS6344 I
PF3754 I
CTS6497 I
PF3756 I
CTS6751 I
PF3757 I
CTS7329 I
PF3759 I
YSC0000267 I
CTS7469 I
CTS7502 I
PF3760 I
CTS7540 I
PF3761 I
CTS7593 I
PF3763 I
CTS7831 I
PF3766 I
CTS8064 I
PF3768 I
CTS8300 I
PF3770 I
CTS8333 I
PF3771 I
CTS8345 I
PF3772 I
CTS8420 I
PF3773 I
CTS8545 I
PF3775 I
CTS8742 I
PF3776 I
CTS8876 I
PF3778 I
L751 I
PF3779 I
YSC0000291 I
PF3780 I
CTS8963 I
CTS9264 I
PF3782 I
V3496 I
CTS9269 I
PF3783 I
CTS9484 I
PF3785 I
CTS9618 I
PF3786 I
V3671 I
L41 I
PF3787 I
CTS9860 I
PF3790 I
CTS10058 I
PF3794 I
PF3795 I
PF3796 I
PH3797 I
FGC2414 I
Y1903 I
L503 I
PF3800 I
PF3803 I
PF3806 I
PF3807 I
PF3809 I
PF3811 I
FGC2412 I
Y1909 I
PF3814 I
PF3815 I
PF3817 I
PF3819 I
YSC0000272 I
PF3822 I
PF3836 I
PF3837 I
CTS10941 I
PF3838 I
L847 I
PF3841 I
YSC0000298 I
CTS11540 I
PF3842 I
CTS11979 I
PF3878 I
PF3847 I
YSC0000300 I
CTS48 I
PF3569 I
CTS70 I
PF3570 I
CTS88 I
PF3571 I
V1031 I
L844.1 I
PF3572.1 I
YSC0000275.1 I
PF3627.2 I
V218.2 I
CTS646 I
PF3629 I
CTS674 I
FI1 I
PF3630 I
CTS1006 I
M11064 I
PF3634 I
CTS1301 I
PF3635 I
PF3639 I
FGC2416 I
S10441 I
V1318 I
Y1865 I
PF3640 I
PF3641 I
V1369 I
PF3642 I
PF3645 I
V1476 I
L846 I
PF3646 I
YSC0000280 I
PF3864 I
PF3649 I
V1582 I
FGC2413 I
Y1869 I
L578 I
PF3653 I
FI2 I
YSC0000281 I
L755 I
PF3659 I
YSC0000283 I
PF3660 I
V2048 I
PF3661 I
V2111 I
FI3 I
L756 I
PF3662 I
YSC0000284 I
L758 I
PF3663 I
V2199 I
YSC0000285 I
PF3665 I
PF3666 I
FI4 I
PF3668 I
PF3672 I
YSC0000256.1 I
PF3677 I
Z2741^ I1
Z2742^ I1
Z2743 I1
Z2744 I1
FGC2433 I1
FGC2436 I1
Y1879 I1
CTS1739 I1
Z2748 I1
CTS1748 I1
Z2749 I1
CTS1755^ I1
Z2750^ I1
L841 I1
YSC0000257 I1
Z2751 I1
CTS1805 I1
Z2752 I1
AM00084 I1
CTS2044 I1
CTS2375^ I1
Z2754^ I1
CTS2410 I1
Z2755 I1
CTS2644 I1
Z2757 I1
CTS2732^ I1
Z2758^ I1
CTS2738^ I1
Z2759^ I1
P40 I1
P30 I1
CTS2970 I1
Z2760 I1
L80 I1
YSC0000259 I1
Z2761 I1
CTS3268 I1
Z2762 I1
Page123 I1
Z2763 I1
CTS3474 I1
V2712 I1
Z2764 I1
CTS3506 I1
Z2765 I1
M253 I1
CTS3762 I1
Z2766 I1
CTS3843 I1
Z2767 I1
CTS4037^ I1
V2902^ I1
Z2768^ I1
CTS4130 I1
V2932 I1
Z2769 I1
Y1886^ I1
L118 I1
CTS4295 I1
Z2771 I1
CTS4327 I1
Z2772 I1
CTS4344 I1
Z2774 I1
CTS4400 I1
Z2775 I1
CTS4508 I1
Z2776 I1
CTS4532^ I1
Z2777^ I1
CTS4612^ I1
Z2778^ I1
CTS4656 I1
Z2779 I1
CTS5167 I1
Z2784 I1
CTS5247 I1
Z2785 I1
CTS5513^ I1
Z2787^ I1
L495 I1
Z2788 I1
L121 I1
S62 I1
L842 I1
YSC0000264 I1
Z2789 I1
CTS5643^ I1
Z2790^ I1
CTS5705 I1
Z2791 I1
CTS5783 I1
S63 I1
CTS5891 I1
Z2793 I1
CTS5993 I1
Z2794 I1
CTS6006 I1
Z2795 I1
CTS6022 I1
Z2796 I1
CTS6076^ I1
Z2797^ I1
CTS6109 I1
Z2798 I1
L123 I1
CTS6140 I1
Z2799 I1
CTS6221^ I1
Z2802^ I1
CTS6395 I1
Z2803 I1
CTS6629 I1
Z2805 I1
CTS6765 I1
Z2806 I1
CTS7061 I1
Z2807 I1
CTS7121 I1
Z2808 I1
CTS7267^ I1
Z2809^ I1
CTS7386 I1
Z2810 I1
CTS7477 I1
Z2811 I1
CTS7652 I1
Z2812 I1
CTS7751^ I1
Z2813^ I1
CTS7949^ I1
Z2814^ I1
L124 I1
S64 I1
CTS8170 I1
Z2816 I1
CTS8224 I1
Z2817 I1
CTS8394 I1
Z2818 I1
L187 I1
CTS8652 I1
Z2820 I1
CTS8708 I1
Z2821 I1
CTS8716^ I1
Z2822^ I1
Z2823 I1
L157.1 I1
CTS9010 I1
Z2824 I1
L125 I1
S65 I1
CTS9258 I1
Z2825 I1
CTS9288 I1
Z2826 I1
CTS9368^ I1
Z2827^ I1
CTS9486 I1
Z2829 I1
CTS9487^ I1
Z2830^ I1
CTS9518 I1
Z2831 I1
L75 I1
CTS9749 I1
Z2833 I1
CTS9900^ I1
CTS10062 I1
Z2834 I1
L759 I1
YSC0000295 I1
Z2835 I1
L740^ I1
V3959^ I1
YSC0000296^ I1
Z2836^ I1
CTS10140 I1
Z2837 I1
F3033.2 I1
M1443.2 I1
V4056.2 I1
Z2838.2 I1
L575 I1
V4059 I1
Z2839 I1
CTS10338 I1
L840 I1
Z2841 I1
Z2842 I1
Z2843 I1
Z2844 I1
S22865 I1
Z2845 I1
Z2846 I1
Z2847 I1
Z2848 I1
L764 I1
YSC0000271 I1
Z2849 I1
Z2850 I1
Z2852^ I1
Z2854^ I1
Z2855^ I1
Z2856 I1
Z2857^ I1
L81 I1
Z2861 I1
Z2862 I1
M307.2 I1
P203.2 I1
CTS11036 I1
Z2863 I1
CTS11042 I1
S66 I1
L509 I1
Z2864 I1
CTS11091 I1
Z2865 I1
CTS11126^ I1
Z2866^ I1
CTS11166^ I1
Z2867^ I1
CTS11503^ I1
Z2869^ I1
CTS11526 I1
Z2870 I1
CTS11534 I1
Z2871 I1
CTS11552 I1
Z2872 I1
CTS11751 I1
Z2874 I1
CTS11775 I1
Z2875 I1
CTS11783 I1
Z2876 I1
L848 I1
YSC0000299 I1
Z2877 I1
L843 I1
YSC0000273 I1
Z2878 I1
CTS11838 I1
Z2879 I1
CTS11950^ I1
Z2880^ I1
CTS12008 I1
Z2881 I1
YSC0000301 I1
Z2882 I1
Z2885 I1
Z2887 I1
CTS10 I1
Z2676 I1
CTS136 I1
Z2679 I1
CTS209^ I1
V1092^ I1
Z2680^ I1
FGC2435 I1
Z2698 I1
FGC2426 I1
S107 I1
Y1863 I1
FGC2438 I1
S108 I1
Y1864 I1
FGC2430 I1
Z2699 I1
CTS565 I1
Z2700 I1
CTS571 I1
Z2701 I1
CTS641 I1
Z2702 I1
CTS733 I1
Z2703 I1
CTS883 I1
Z2705 I1
CTS1220 I1
Z2706 I1
CTS1266 I1
Z2707 I1
CTS1393 I1
Z2708 I1
M450 I1
S109 I1
FGC2431 I1
Z2710 I1
FGC2439 I1
Z2711 I1
L845 I1
S110 I1
V1333 I1
YSC0000278 I1
FGC2432 I1
V1339 I1
Z2712 I1
FGC2427^ I1
Z2713^ I1
FGC2425 I1
Z2714 I1
FGC2422 I1
Z2715 I1
V1423 I1
Z2717 I1
FGC2440 I1
V1427 I1
Y3658 I1
Z2718 I1
Z2719 I1
Z2723 I1
FGC2444 I1
S111 I1
V1623 I1
Y1868 I1
L750 I1
YSC0000282 I1
Z2725 I1
Z2727 I1
V2264^ I1
Z2728^ I1
Z2729 I1
Z2730^ I1
Z2731 I1
Z2733 I1
Z2736 I1
Z2737 I1
Z2738 I1
L64 I1
FGC10273 I1~
FGC7747 I1~
CTS5887 I1~
Z2792 I1~
CTS8597 I1~
Z2819 I1~
Z2886 I1~
FGC9452 I1~
DF29^^ I1a
S438^^ I1a
CTS9857 I1a~
V3772 I1a~
V1614 I1a~
Z2891 I1a~
CTS10028 I1a1b
Z2337 I1a1b
L22 I1a1b1
S142 I1a1b1
CTS11651 I1a1b1a~
Z2338 I1a1b1a~
P109 I1a1b1a1



2 comments:

  1. But Stora Förvar 11 has several negative calls for I1-M253 and is therefore clearly pre-I1, isn't he?

    That LBK I1 individual wasn't whole genome sequenced and might have been contaminated, without any possibility to check for the level of contamination.

    By the way, returning to the geographical but not temporal vicinity of Stora Förvar 11, what about the lower quality Ajvide PWC genomes? Ajvide 52B, 59 and 70 were all males and according to Genetiker 52B and 70 were both I2a1a2a1-L1287, although that seemed based on very few and uncertain calls. 59 he got as only I-M170. Is there anything more that can be concluded from these using the latest SNP assignments?

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    1. Negative call means nothing in this context because snps/mutations marked on certain tree level didn't happen simultaneously. So at each time the imagined terminal branch includes positive and negative calls. How could those mutations have occurred simultaneously? Simply impossible.

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